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JEFFREY CHIPETINE replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. yesterday

Disclosure: I am not an A/P. All that follows is conjecture w/ a single success as my only data point.
Aluminum Wemac eyeball vents are possible, but this requires both some fabrication as well as an A/P who is willing to sign off on the modifications. AirMod will do this work legally as part of their interior renovation services, but TTBOMK it is not available on a stand-alone basis. Use the aluminum and NOT the plastic vents.

All that follows requires an A/P signoff at a minimum and is not a DIY closed hangar door maintenance project. If your A/P is not on-board, you're stuck w/ the OEM vents. This is detailed work that requires some skills, patience, and more time than you might imagine. Done well it is a boon and a wonderful upgrade. Done poorly, the outcome is worse than the condition of your current OEM vents.
Note: As many of our plastic headliners are 40 years old +/- you have to be careful of causing additional damages as you'll be flexing that very old plastic as you work. If you assign this work to a facility, do not be surprised if they disavow responsibility for that old plastic cracking during the attempt. There are times when the old plastic has the integrity of a potato chip. Be mentally prepared to unzip the wallet for a headliner if it cracks enroute.

Mechanically, The OEM vent w/ the awful seals and shutters is removed. A plastic sheet (buyplaneparts.com/abs-plastic-sheet-24x2...c-rated-10-2424-80a/) is cut to hold the new Wemac eyeball.. The new sheet is drilled to accommodate the eyeball. You next need to form a right angle adapter to allow the eyeball vent to neck down and come off at a right angle so that it forms a male junction over which the female vent hose is attached. You need to keep the 90 ° angle TIGHT as space is limited. Cut back a fitting and form the adapter w/ a slurry of ABS chips (buyplaneparts.com/abs-plastic-repair-chips-1-lb-10-02-80a/)and Styrene cement (buyplaneparts.com/products/Industrial-Pl...1802%252d18A%29.html) to neck down to your desired tubing size as close to the eyeball vent as is possible, then use a 90° ell to turn towards the tubing. Fabricating the 90°turning adapter is the lion's share of the creativity in this project. Take your time.

After being nicely painted to match, he finished adapter plate complete w/ eyeball needs to be fastened to the cabin structure. That can be done by using the existing mounting points for the OEM vent body. Once the headliner is back in place, a well placed seal of silicone caulk makes things look tidy. Alternatively, you can attach the sheet w/ the eyeball to the headliner, but that makes attaching the vent feed hose very difficult.

Speaking of vent feeder hose: If your vent feeder hose is black old style (cat?), consider removal and replacement w/ proper orange/silicone hose NOW. The steel in the old stuff lies against the aluminum and rusts, taking out valuable airplane parts (like the wing spar) as it ages. Removal and replacement of that hose will give you religion as it is a royal pain and your fingers will throb w/ ache for weeks afterward. No lie. If you need to do the hose replacement, do not shy away from this difficult work. You're taking away a source of corrosion that has junked more than a couple of Cessna airplanes over the years.

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Ed Fogle replied to the topic 'Buying former Canadian plane' in the forum. 2 days ago

Thanks Steve. The plane has been in the U.S. under U.S. registration for several years. Will verify logs are continuous. Was wondering if Canadians keep maintenance records differently from us.

Ed

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Buying former Canadian plane' in the forum. 2 days ago

Hi Ed;
If this airplane has a U.S. N number, you're ahead. If it has a Canadian ID (that begins CF-) than I believe you'll have to verify that every component such as tires, instruments, etc. is an approved component in the U. S.
If you brought an airplane to me for an annual after it had been operated in Canada for years, I would conduct a very thorough inspection to made sure it complied with the Type Certificate or Pilot's Operating Handbook as far as placards, and that all the airworthiness directives that applies to the airplane, engine, prop, and all accessories had been complied with.
I recommend that you contact one of the title search companies in Oke City (type aircraft title search into your favorite search engine) to determine if the title is clear.
You can also obtain a complete FAA file on the airplane by contacting the FAA Registry office at: registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/.
The FAA regulations specify that there be "aircraft maintenance records," there's no mandate for these records to be entered into a logbook, per se. So I suggest that you're looking for a continuous stream of records showing regular oil and filter changes, and regular flying activity.
It may take some desk work to get a good picture of the airplane history but I believe it will be time well spent.
Good luck,
Please let me know about your experience and decision on this matter.
Steve

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Ed Fogle created a new topic ' Buying former Canadian plane' in the forum. 4 days ago

I am considering purchasing an airplane that is currently U.S. registered but has spent some years under Canadian registration. What are some of the thinks I need to know, particular in regards logbooks and other maintenance records, title security, etc.

Thanks

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Ed Fogle created a new topic ' Price of mods' in the forum. 4 days ago

Does anyone know the approximate cost of these mods on a 206, installed: WingX wing extensions, vortex generators, Flint tanks?

Thanks

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george douglas replied to the topic 'AirBox gasket' in the forum. 7 days ago

I found the gasket material I was looking for from www.dynamicpropellers.com out of Washington state. Good service.
george

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Ed Fogle replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. 7 days ago

That would be great. I’ll try to figure out how to contact you via this site.

Ed

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DOUGLAS VINCENT replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. 7 days ago

Ed

You may talk to Wilco. Their vents replace the complete Cessna plastic with internal hoses etc. Not real cheap, but work great for a long time.

I first did the front then replace the rear vents. Well worth the expense.
If you are at RVS come by my hangar and have a look at what I installed in my 210.

Wilco will know what is required, but I would think they work on a 182 like in the picture.

doug

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Paul Guilbert replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. 7 days ago

Are you fitting your Wemacs into a C182 and does it look like the attached in the rear as things currently stand please?

Thanks.



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Ed Fogle replied to the topic 'Won't start' in the forum. 7 days ago

Thanks Steve. Will start there as soon as it warms up at least a little. 11 degrees now.

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Weight and Balance Calculator?' in the forum. 7 days ago

Hi Mike;
I don't have a Wt and Bal computer but the stations are as follows.
Station zero (0) is the lower half of the firewall
Station 16.66 is the aft edge of the instrument panel glare shield
Station 44 is the belly rivet line half way back on the bottom of the door frame
Station 65.33 is the aft edge of the door frame
Station 90.0 is the rivet line just in front of the baggage door
Station 108.0 is the rivet line just aft of the baggage door
Station 142 is the bulkhead rivet line of the bulkhead 34 inches aft of station 108.
There is additional arms in the weight and balance section of your Owner's manual.

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Won't start' in the forum. 7 days ago

Hi again;
I've pondered this problem anew. And it seems as the "bad magneto/start switch" fix I suggested shouldn't be as high a priority as cleaning the cables at the battery and at the ground cable at the battery (both ends) and checking both the battery contactor for high resistance. There should be very little drop through the battery contactor unless it is corroded or the contacts are burned. I suspect the battery contactor or corrosion of the battery cable ends is the source of your problem.
I suggest you replace your battery contactor with one from Sky-Tec. The STS-A12 is the part number for Sky Tec's continuous duty (battery) contactor.

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STEVE ELLS replied to the topic 'Won't start' in the forum. 1 week ago

Hi,
IMHO, you're list is where I would start. But since ground power gives a good start I think you can eliminate a bad starter.
There is an AD on the starter (mag) switches. It's listed under ACS Products. The AD is 93-05-06. It calls for removing the switch from the panel and inspecting the switch internally by removing the 2 screws that hold the front (key side) and the back (wire side) together.
I always did this inspection in the airplane; there's no need to disconnect the wires.
Hold the switch so the key side is down when you're separating the two halves. Slowly lower the key side away from the wire side--there will be three triangle shaped contacts and three springs.
Look closely at the contacts on the wire side and the triangle shaped contacts for burning and erosion.
If you see any burning or erosion, get the switch kit from Aircraft Spruce here: www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/i...t.php?clickkey=28680.
You'll be able to access the ACS service bulletin related to the AD on the "documents" tab of the Aircraft Spruce switch page of the website.
This AD does apply to your 182P but is sometimes missed because it's not listed under Cessna.
Please let me and other owners learn from your experience by posting the solution.
Thanks
Steve

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Paul Guilbert replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. 1 week ago

I look forward to hearing how you get on. Given the number of similar aircraft out there you'd have thought there would be a market. These are the one thing letting down the rear part of my cabin.

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Ed Fogle replied to the topic 'Rear passenger air vents' in the forum. 1 week ago

I have a friend who has Wemac style vents that replace the old, lousy Cessna ones. That airplane got them in the process of an expensive AirMod interior upgrade. Spoke to AirMod but they are not interested in selling the vents by themselves. I am in the process of trying to fit some Wemacs but am waiting for warmer weather to dig into it.

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Ed Fogle created a new topic ' Won't start' in the forum. 2 weeks ago

C-182P with IO-470 conversion. A few months ago I had an intermittent problem starting. Battery switch on, turn ignition to start and nothing happens except the EDM 900 goes blank. When the problem first occurred I could, sometimes, turn the battery switch off then on and get a start. Lately, that process didn't produce a start and I have jumped the planet the jumper cable receptacle which gave a good start. Further starts during the day are no problem. One thing I noticed is the EDM shows 12.0 battery volts but a check at the battery gives in excess of 13 volts. Is that a normal drop from the battery behind the baggage compartment to where voltage is measured by the EDM? My thinking on that is whatever the start problem it causes a high current draw that drops the bus voltage where the EDM is attached below some threshold that the EDM requires and it shuts off. I haven't tried leaving the battery on after an occurrence to see if the EDM comes back on line. The next time it happens I will try to remember to check this. The battery checks good.

I'm left thinking these things as the problem:
(1) battery cables at each end need cleaning and securing,
(2) bad starter,
(3) bad starter solenoid,
(4) bad magneto/start switch.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

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