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6 days 1 hour ago #3139 by STEVE ELLS
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Valentino;
I haven't gotten any response from Cessna in response to my question about the similarities and differences between the US and the Fr versions.

Have you got what you need?

Steve

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1 week 6 days ago #3132 by Valentino Carcione
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Yes Steve, you are right.
More in detail, I checked the papers, the airplane is a FR172J (TC A18EU) that is the same as R172J (TC 3A17)
Different model but same case.
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1 week 6 days ago #3128 by STEVE ELLS
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Valentino;

I think I understand:
1) you have a N registered F172N built under TC A4EU.

2) You want to install a STC on your F172N but the STC does not include the F172N in the AML or applicability section.

3) You're asking if the 172N (TC 3A12) is identical to your F172N (TC A4EU). If they are identical that would make the installation of the STC easy.

Am I understanding?

I am reaching out to Cessna to ask if the two TC are identical.

I will let you know what Cessna says.

Best,
Steve

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2 weeks 6 hours ago #3127 by Valentino Carcione
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Hi Steve,
thanks for your answer the process is almost clear to me.
My point is strictly related to the similarity between US-built cessna and Reims versions.
For  instance 172N TC 3A12, as matter of facts, is the same aircraft of an F172N under TC A4EU but, legally, you can't apply an STC validates only for 3A12 to a Reims F172.
In EU if STC is basic is possible to apply it with a special process.
My question is if a similar way is available for N-Reg airplane.
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2 weeks 16 hours ago #3126 by STEVE ELLS
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Hi Valentino;

I hope I understand your question.

STCs are listed on the FAA website.

Each STC has an list of all the airplanes that the STC change or parts can be installed on. Sometimes the STCs are serial number and/or year limited.

More modern STCs will have an Approved Model List (AML) included with the listing on the
FAA website.

For instance, STC SA01107SE is for the installation of a door hold-open device to replace the manufacturer's hold open device.

The STC is owned by a company named Knots2U.

All of the Cessna STCs are now listed under Textron Aviation Inc. on the FAA website since Textron now owns Cessna.

If an airplane is listed in the AML or in the applicability section of the STC, no other approval other than a FAA approved Airframe and Powerplant (A&P) mechanic who also holds a separate approval called an Inspection Authorization (IA).

There is no other approval needed as long as the airplane is listed, and it's signed off by the IA.

I hope that answers your question

Let me know how I can help further.

Steve

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2 weeks 1 day ago #3123 by Valentino Carcione
Apply an STC to Reims built Cessnas was created by Valentino Carcione
Hi all.
I have a question related to STC applicability to Reims-Cessna.
In EASAland, when an STC is available for an US Cessna, is possible to apply it to the equivalent Reims via minor change process. Quoting EASA FAQ, “However, because the Reims-Cessna aircraft are identical to the US-built aircraft, and because there is no technical investigation necessary to extend the applicability of STCs to the French-built aircraft, EASA can extend the grandfathered approval to Reims-built aircraft but the approval has to be legally recorded.“

Is there a similar grandfathering process in FAA?

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Valentino

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